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Malone 08-06-2016 03:55 AM

Ligotti on his politics and personal hopes
 
“I am a liberal who wishes to see the destruction of the human race”

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bendk 08-06-2016 03:58 AM

Re: Ligotti on his politics and personal hopes
 
Thanks for this post, Malone. I am now going to sleep laughing and with a smile on my face.

Nirvana In Karma 08-06-2016 05:48 AM

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Hahaha what a great quote. Just imagine Ligotti giving a televised interview on his philosophy, getting called a reactionary, and he responds: "In the words of Bill Maher, I'm the liberal in this debate!"

Acutely decayed 08-06-2016 07:31 AM

Re: Ligotti on his politics and personal hopes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Malone (Post 127232)
“I am a liberal who wishes to see the destruction of the human race”


You realise the voting strategy for such is clear right...

Sad Marsh Ghost 08-06-2016 09:10 AM

Re: Ligotti on his politics and personal hopes
 
I thought Ligotti was socially liberal, but economically socialist? I suppose he's using 'liberal' in the modern cultural sense. It confuses me.

Druidic 08-06-2016 10:08 AM

Re: Ligotti on his politics and personal hopes
 
I've always said Ligotti's philosophical and political views don't mesh. I know they're often explained by describing him as a compassionate antinatalist. But socialism holds a very progressive view, a belief that life can be made better and that human nature will come along for the ride. Some things are just natural opposites. Like peanut butter and tuna sandwiches...or cheese and sardines...or...

Sad Marsh Ghost 08-06-2016 10:17 AM

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I think it makes perfect sense that somebody whose antinatalist worldview is based on mitigating/eliminating suffering would believe socialism is preferable to capitalism.

Druidic 08-06-2016 10:32 AM

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Good Lord, James, you may be rught! Socialism may be the ultimate nihilism. I never looked at it that way before...

Sad Marsh Ghost 08-06-2016 10:39 AM

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I don't think there's anything inherently pessimistic about wanting the workers to own the means of production instead of leaving this vital societal framework to competing private enterprises who arrived at their position of responsibility through chance. It just makes more sense.

miguel1984 08-07-2016 12:40 AM

Re: Ligotti on his politics and personal hopes
 
If I remember correctly, according to the interview Ligotti gave to Tina Hall at Macabre Cadaver and then transferred to The Damned Interviews, he considers himself a Socialist because life is so meaningless and full of suffering that we should make everyone's life as less painful as possible. I see no contradiction in that.


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