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Robin Davies 01-15-2019 02:02 PM

Re: Book Hoarding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revenant (Post 151150)
Books, books, books. Whatever do we do with them? We do not re-read most of them (too many others waiting for attention). We do not give them away or pass them on. Selling feels a bit like sacrilege (unless one disliked the book) and so they sit on the shelf, waiting. For what?

For you to re-read when you get old, and current books are of less interest.

Zaharoff 01-30-2019 09:32 PM

Joyless
 
In my early twenties, I had the notion of assembling my own "library."
Classics, art books, histories, reference works, etc ...
What one would see in movies set in the stately manor.
Folly, what with the public library, and later internet.
Still I did buy, and continue to buy, books that beckoned.

Behavior I find puzzling, I am now witnessing in my supposedly rational female friends and relatives.
There is an almost manic craze for tidying, jettisoning possessions that no longer "spark joy."
Decluttering.
For so many, that means clearing the bookshelves to a Zen-like state.
Many, I have had to plead with - "Don't throw the books out in the trash! Donate to your library, give to a retirement home, drop off at the Salvation Army."
Someone will value those castoffs.
This is the polar opposite of hoarding, and it saddens me.
I wonder how many will regret their actions in a couple of years.

ToALonelyPeace 01-31-2019 12:18 PM

Re: Joyless
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaharoff (Post 151279)
In my early twenties, I had the notion of assembling my own "library."
Classics, art books, histories, reference works, etc ...
What one would see in movies set in the stately manor.
Folly, what with the public library, and later internet.
Still I did buy, and continue to buy, books that beckoned.

Behavior I find puzzling, I am now witnessing in my supposedly rational female friends and relatives.
There is an almost manic craze for tidying, jettisoning possessions that no longer "spark joy."
Decluttering.
For so many, that means clearing the bookshelves to a Zen-like state.
Many, I have had to plead with - "Don't throw the books out in the trash! Donate to your library, give to a retirement home, drop off at the Salvation Army."
Someone will value those castoffs.
This is the polar opposite of hoarding, and it saddens me.
I wonder how many will regret their actions in a couple of years.

I doubt they will regret it since minimalism is in fashion right now. It's a pain to move or get rid of physical books. Many like the idea that they have millions of books at their disposal, and they only have to push the download button to read one. I would switch to reading on the tablet or kindle if not for my issues of decreased reading speed and increased impatience. Also people don't often steal books, but they will steal those devices.

Revenant 01-31-2019 02:54 PM

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Minimalism is a fascinating idea that I did look into at one point. But I simply cannot be a minimalist when it comes to books. Everything else, yes. In fact, give me a bed, a comfortable chair, a CD player, and walls crammed with books and I think I'd be perfectly content.

gveranon 05-01-2020 10:21 PM

Re: Book Hoarding
 
Obituary of Madeline Kripke (sister of the philosopher Saul Kripke), "who kept one of the world’s largest private collection of dictionaries [20,000 volumes], much of it crammed into her Greenwich Village apartment." Follow the link and scroll down to see an amazing picture of her apartment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/30/n...ronavirus.html

This was not mindless collecting:

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She was self-taught as a lexicographer. “She approached her collection and study with the same scholarship and discipline with which her father approached religion,” said Tom Dalzell, a slang expert, “and with which her brother approaches modal logic, philosophy of language, metaphysics, epistemology and recursion theory.”

Jesse Sheidlower, a former editor at the “Oxford English Dictionary,” said of Ms. Kripke, “She didn’t just accumulate material; she read it all, and could tell you the editor’s personality based on the changes made across varying editions of a work."
And here is a longer profile/interview with more pictures of her collection: https://narratively.com/the-dame-of-dictionaries/

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Sheidlower recalled when he first met her at the beginning of his career twenty years ago. He had heard about her but didn’t know much and asked about a particular dictionary he thought was hard to get. She not only had numerous editions but even offered a complete discourse on it.

“I thought she’d have lots of copies of all these common things, but I had no idea that she was a better library than the Library of Congress,” he said. “And that was then. Now it’s that much better still.”
And I can't resist adding this:

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“Any book that I want to have near me that’s new goes into in the bedroom first,” she says. These titles command a sizable share of real estate on her queen-size bed. “There’s a little strip of vacant land for me to sleep on. It’s no way to live, but until I part with some of the books or store some away from the apartment, that’s it for now.”

Robert Adam Gilmour 06-17-2020 08:19 PM

Re: Book Hoarding
 
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Originally Posted by Robert Adam Gilmour (Post 150598)
My reading goals seem more delusional when I consider how long it takes to even browse all these books!

I was looking at my written wishlists and adding the most important things to amazon wishlist again and I thought "I need to take a break before I enter the rest, maybe I'll spread this over the next two days"!

But I'm buying less books.

A couple of weeks ago I looked through all my books to get the priority books established. There's still some comics that I have no idea if I still want to read them and I don't want to get rid of them until I'm sure.

Some stuff I regret buying: Russell Kirk's Ancestral Shadows (I thought the one story I've read is just okay) and Oliver Onions (I've liked 2 or 3 of his stories well enough, but do I need this huge book of them?) But I won't get rid of them unless I'm really not enjoying them if I ever get around to them.

Robert Adam Gilmour 11-20-2020 07:26 PM

Re: Book Hoarding
 
When I look at authors I'm particularly interested in, I often say to myself "I'll read all their books eventually", but this is looking increasingly optimistic and unreal. So too that idea of keeping up with the small presses I'm most interested in.

How many authors do you manage, try to or realistically plan to read their complete works? Is it folly for a regular reader to try to be completist about many authors who written 50-100 books?

I'm still keen on being completist about SP Somtow and Tanith Lee.

Does any of you keep up with many fiction magazines online and offline?

Pan Michael 11-21-2020 01:27 PM

Re: Book Hoarding
 
I have had a few temporary insanity episodes I pared down my book collection a bit too much. Where, for example, I brought 2 big bags to the library to donate, when, had I been more discerning, I should have just brought one small one. Of course, I don't regret all of these (letting go of mass market paperbacks never bothers me, and I do prefer to get rid of books that I have strong feelings against for whatever reason, like Sartre's "Nausea".), but there are a few that strike me as sheer madness in retrospect. I actually donated a first edition set of Thomas Mann's multi-volume "Joseph and His Brothers" (Which had a beautiful personalized dedication in exquisite calligraphy), simply because I had just purchased James Wood's more recent translation. Yet how much I've regretted that ever since!

Still, it is kind of funny. I only know perhaps one person in the real world with even a vague appreciation for books and literature. So I read pretty much for myself alone. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's even a noble thing in it's way. But it would be nice to have someone to discuss it all with on occasion. However, the ignorance of the average American today is pretty staggering. I saw a survey not so long ago that detailed how 30 percent of American adults actually think that the sun revolves around the earth rather than vice versa! (Really, how is this even possible? How can a person live so incuriously for 45 years as to not know such a basic fact of existence?) A similar survey showed that less than 5 percent of the adult population in this country reads a single book a year after college, even when "book" is defined so generously as to include Oprah Winfrey's list of top cookbooks. When these are your neighbors (70 million of whom voted for Trump, good grief.), I guess it's to be expected that literature and book collecting will always remain solitary pursuits.

Michael 11-21-2020 08:53 PM

Re: Book Hoarding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pan Michael (Post 157359)
I have had a few temporary insanity episodes I pared down my book collection a bit too much. Where, for example, I brought 2 big bags to the library to donate, when, had I been more discerning, I should have just brought one small one. Of course, I don't regret all of these (letting go of mass market paperbacks never bothers me, and I do prefer to get rid of books that I have strong feelings against for whatever reason, like Sartre's "Nausea".), but there are a few that strike me as sheer madness in retrospect. I actually donated a first edition set of Thomas Mann's multi-volume "Joseph and His Brothers" (Which had a beautiful personalized dedication in exquisite calligraphy), simply because I had just purchased James Wood's more recent translation. Yet how much I've regretted that ever since!

Still, it is kind of funny. I only know perhaps one person in the real world with even a vague appreciation for books and literature. So I read pretty much for myself alone. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's even a noble thing in it's way. But it would be nice to have someone to discuss it all with on occasion. However, the ignorance of the average American today is pretty staggering. I saw a survey not so long ago that detailed how 30 percent of American adults actually think that the sun revolves around the earth rather than vice versa! (Really, how is this even possible? How can a person live so incuriously for 45 years as to not know such a basic fact of existence?) A similar survey showed that less than 5 percent of the adult population in this country reads a single book a year after college, even when "book" is defined so generously as to include Oprah Winfrey's list of top cookbooks. When these are your neighbors (70 million of whom voted for Trump, good grief.), I guess it's to be expected that literature and book collecting will always remain solitary pursuits.

Pan Michael you have no idea HOW MUCH I empathize with what you wrote. It's like existing in a world filled with silence. It's beautiful and terrible simultaneously.

Robert Adam Gilmour 11-21-2020 09:42 PM

Re: Book Hoarding
 
If one were to select a country to live in based on what its readers are like, you might consider some of these statistics (but some of these articles are getting a bit old). Literacy rates and number of enthusiastic readers being a very different thing, especially with Thailand.
Finland ranked world's most literate nation | Books | The Guardian
Which Countries Read the Most? - WorldAtlas
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Indians 'world's biggest readers'

I had heard Australia was a good country of readers, but that was Terry Dowling saying that in the 90s.


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