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Odalisque 06-13-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilsa (Post 10095)
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Originally Posted by Nemonymous (Post 10094)
I personally have no religion. But I do have faith in ideas that have a power all of their own once we set them in motion.

I agree with you, in fact i believe that human ideas created god ...

And goddess?

Nemonymous 06-13-2008 12:08 PM

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Why goddess? I think 'god' is genderless, if this idea of godhood subsists as such.

Ilsa 06-13-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemonymous (Post 10097)
Why goddess? I think 'god' is genderless, if this idea of godhood subsists as such.

we can be politically correct and say that ideas created goddess too....:) just kidding
anyways, the point is that i share the theory, much better expressed by Feuerbach (and others), that the idea of a god/goddess/godhood/ godhead is originated to tame human fears ...

Odalisque 06-13-2008 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilsa (Post 10098)
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Originally Posted by Nemonymous (Post 10097)
Why goddess? I think 'god' is genderless, if this idea of godhood subsists as such.

we can be politically correct and say that ideas created goddess too....:) just kidding
anyways, the point is that i share the theory, much better expressed by Feuerbach (and others), that the idea of a god/goddess/godhood/ godhead is originated to tame human fears ...

For me, I think, sexual diamorphism lies at the heart of divinity. And, it seems to me, this brings us back towards the departure point of this thread.

Is it just me, or does the idea of taming human fears bring to mind an image of a human fear tamer, like a lion tamer, wearing a human fear tamer's cap, armed with whip and chair.

Ilsa 06-13-2008 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Odalisque (Post 10101)
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Originally Posted by Ilsa (Post 10098)
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Originally Posted by Nemonymous (Post 10097)
Why goddess? I think 'god' is genderless, if this idea of godhood subsists as such.

we can be politically correct and say that ideas created goddess too....:) just kidding
anyways, the point is that i share the theory, much better expressed by Feuerbach (and others), that the idea of a god/goddess/godhood/ godhead is originated to tame human fears ...

For me, I think, sexual diamorphism lies at the heart of divinity. And, it seems to me, this brings us back towards the departure point of this thread.

Is it just me, or does the idea of taming human fears bring to mind an image of a human fear tamer, like a lion tamer, wearing a human fear tamer's cap, armed with whip and chair.

ahahaha...maybe it's because my english is pretty crap and I used the wrong word! :rolleyes:
but I hope the concept was clear...still the human fear tamer's cap sounds funny!

Odalisque 06-13-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilsa (Post 10102)
ahahaha...maybe it's because my english is pretty crap and I used the wrong word! :rolleyes:
but I hope the concept was clear...still the human fear tamer's cap sounds funny!

Your English seems very good (and clear) to me.

It's the mischief in me that made me raise the idea of a human fear tamer... All the same, it's an idea with which to conjure --- of someone going into a cage full of human fears, fending them off with a chair, cracking a whip. Having formed the concept, it seemed too good not to share. ;)

Nemonymous 06-14-2008 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Odalisque (Post 10101)
For me, I think, sexual diamorphism lies at the heart of divinity.

Such a divinity, arguably, could instil dimorphism in that divinity's worshipers, but does it not resonate better with any concept of divinity for that divinity to be either genderless (or perhaps multi-gendered?) in itself if one assumes that there can only be one divinity in any system of divinity?

Odalisque 06-14-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Odalisque (Post 10101)
For me, I think, sexual diamorphism lies at the heart of divinity.

Such a divinity, arguably, could instil dimorphism in that divinity's worshipers, but does it not resonate better with any concept of divinity for that divinity to be either genderless (or perhaps multi-gendered?) in itself if one assumes that there can only be one divinity in any system of divinity?

My assumption is that divinity is multiple.

I wouldn't preclude there being ultimately a one-spirit pervading the entire universe, but such a concept is so far beyond our finite experience that I don't think that we could even begin to contemplate what such a one-spirit might be like. And I don't think that there is any any useful point is so much as positing such a thing. Indeed, it seems to me that positing such a thing has been entirely harmful -- people can only attribute to such a overarching deity properties that could belong (at most) to minor godlings. In my view, this has been responsible for a great many of the troubles of the world.

Nemonymous 06-14-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Odalisque (Post 10116)
...people can only attribute to such a overarching deity properties that could belong (at most) to minor godlings. In my view, this has been responsible for a great many of the troubles of the world.

Well, I agree with that!

Odalisque 06-14-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemonymous (Post 10117)
Well, I agree with that!

How pleasant to agree! :):):)


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