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Aetherwing 03-28-2005 07:38 AM

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I'd be interested in seeing that, actualy. I'm a big Chambers/Carcosa Cycle fan. Gotta love The Repairer of Reputations.

Also, Blish's MORE LIGHT...

By the Black Stars of Carcosa,
-Aether

The Silent One 03-29-2005 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Aetherwing";p=&quot (Post 937)
I'd be interested in seeing that, actualy. I'm a big Chambers/Carcosa Cycle fan. Gotta love The Repairer of Reputations.

Also, Blish's MORE LIGHT...

By the Black Stars of Carcosa,
-Aether

Putting "More Light" on the Mythos/Weird/Horror checklist...
Chambers is my favorite Victorian.

Aetherwing 03-29-2005 10:41 AM

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I found "More Light" in the original Chaosium Mythos Cycle Books series THE HASTUR CYCLE. I don't know how hard it'd be to locate this volume today, but let me know if you find the story. Also, let me know if you CAN'T find it...maybe I can help.

Have you read Karl Edward Wagner's "The River of Night's Dreaming"?
Excellent Carcosa Cycle tale!

Flow Morphea Slow,
-Aether

The Silent One 03-29-2005 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aetherwing";p=&quot (Post 971)
I found "More Light" in the original Chaosium Mythos Cycle Books series THE HASTUR CYCLE. I don't know how hard it'd be to locate this volume today, but let me know if you find the story. Also, let me know if you CAN'T find it...maybe I can help.

Have you read Karl Edward Wagner's "The River of Night's Dreaming"?
Excellent Carcosa Cycle tale!

Flow Morphea Slow,
-Aether

Thanks! Not yet, no. Yog-Sothothery is always fun to ponder. Personally, who do you think is the nastier: Hastur, Cthulhu, or Byatis? I've just got Alone with the Horrors and immediately read "The Room in the Castle" and "Cold Print". Now, like with Ligotti, I'm in love. Question: What do you think Y'golonac really looks like. All I need is the collection Cold Print and I'll be content. However, I do have a categoric knowledge of the Mythos, knowing Aphoom-Zhah and B'moth to Ycnagnnisssz and Zsystulzhemgni, being one of the few people who keeps track of the Cthulhu Mythos article at Wikipedia (My third favorite sight.). What are X'chll'at-aa and Y'hkmaat, exactly? And who is the God of the Red Flux? To quote an incredibly bright and 17% psychotic friend of mine, "Me is confuzzled!".

Aetherwing 03-29-2005 02:46 PM

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Nastier....well, depends on the type of nastiness.

Hastur in his KiY/Pallid Mask aspects are insidiously, Ligotti-like nasty. Decadent, insinuative, artistically destructive.

Byatis, in his original appearance (though RC did not invent the name) seemed quite dangerous, but in a relatively localized way.

Cthulhu, of course, would be the worst, and probably the most significantly devastating, were he free.

You really DO seem very conversant w/ the Mythoi, Silent. I'll check those names you tossed out and see if I can't find out who/what they belong to.

The Silent One 04-01-2005 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Aetherwing";p=&quot (Post 990)
Byatis, in his original appearance (though RC did not invent the name) seemed quite dangerous, but in a relatively localized way.

No? Pray tell. I am very fond of "The Room in the Castle", actually.
For nastiest in the unpleasant way, ol' Y'golonac all the way! I wrote a poem about him this morning at 12:30. The piece (and the deity) are very Ligottian in my opinion.

Aetherwing 04-01-2005 10:40 AM

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I believe Bob Bloch referenced Byatis, I'll find the story later...

Demystifying the Wyrm,
-Aether

The Silent One 04-02-2005 06:00 PM

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Demystifying the Wyrm

Mysteries of the Worm just as a title has many meanings. Who/what is said worm? Man was once the worm as mentioned in "Last Feast", developing into Serpent Folk, then ourselves (see the Necronomicon Project's bit on Yidhra). I'm using this premise and a few odd references to various beasties in "The Noctuary". Also, the motif of blindness is prevelent in many Mythos creatures (Rlim-Shaikorth, Y'golonac and Servents, etc.), making it perfect for a story involving an all-seeing deity. Alright, I'm confusing everyone, but once you see it in print you'll get it. O.K., enough rambling from me.
P.S. I love Byatis. Then again, I've always been fond of toads. Plus, I can draw him in about 1 min. Same with many Lovecraftian horrors. I could post 'em, if anyone's interested.
P.P.S. "Throon, Gigi" :wink: ?

Dr. Bantham 04-16-2005 10:08 AM

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The Silent One,

I'll make the request that you follow through on your offer to share your art. Mythos creatures are often represented as an extensive catalog of variants, since the foundation for each construct was a literary source. Of course, many have evolved into stereotypes of representation over time, but the basic rules of interpretation are quite broad.

This is an interesting tangent for me, since Lovecraft created his Mythos full of completely original horrors, with no established preconception of visual representations existing. This is not the case for mythical or legendary horrors, many of which have centuries of pre-existing physical interpretations. Mythos entities may be interpreted by the artist without regard for distorting iconic imagery. And since part of Lovecraft's "craft" was to only provide glimpses of physical horrors, interpretations of entities can be highly diverse. Since you seem to exhibit an extensive knowledge of Mythos entities, I am most anxious to see your visions.

The Silent One 04-16-2005 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Bantham";p=&quot (Post 1227)
The Silent One,

I'll make the request that you follow through on your offer to share your art. Mythos creatures are often represented as an extensive catalog of variants, since the foundation for each construct was a literary source. Of course, many have evolved into stereotypes of representation over time, but the basic rules of interpretation are quite broad.

This is an interesting tangent for me, since Lovecraft created his Mythos full of completely original horrors, with no established preconception of visual representations existing. This is not the case for mythical or legendary horrors, many of which have centuries of pre-existing physical interpretations. Mythos entities may be interpreted by the artist without regard for distorting iconic imagery. And since part of Lovecraft's "craft" was to only provide glimpses of physical horrors, interpretations of entities can be highly diverse. Since you seem to exhibit an extensive knowledge of Mythos entities, I am most anxious to see your visions.

True, interpretations can vary greatly. After all, the purest source is the tale in itself. Personally, I am quite enamoured by the works of these various writers, so I try to stay true to the thing as it was written*. Otherwise I'd seem like a porcine cretin. In truth, what's so artful about Ligotti, Lovecraft, Campbell, etc. is that, as you said, nothing is revealed in whole. If it were, it would be positively dull.
P.S. In writing or in sketches ;) ?
*Derleth, Lumley, you fools, you can right a ghost story but you still think "good" always triumphs over "evil" and Ghatanothoa is Cthulhu's son? The first one is just disappointing, but the second? Unacceptable!


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