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Druidic 07-10-2017 12:42 AM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
Good luck, Robert, in finding them.

Two of the best, I believe, are in The Dark Brotherhood, an AH volume that you might get through inter-library loan (assuming that still exists).

Here are the titles of individual works, the first one part fiction:

"To Arkham and the Stars"

"A Literary Copernicus" (in AH Something About Cats, most valuable of all the essays.)

"Through Hyperspace with Brown Jenkin."

Some of these are available in inexpensive Leiber pbs but I haven't a clue as to titles.

Perhaps some Leiber enthusiast with an extensive collection of pbs can help you.

Good luck, my friend.

Robert Adam Gilmour 07-10-2017 08:30 AM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
Title: A Literary Copernicus
Title: To Arkham and the Stars
Title: Through Hyperspace with Brown Jenkin

Here's the lists. The only book that seems to collect them all is Fritz Leiber and H. P. Lovecraft: Writers of the Dark.
Publication: Fritz Leiber and H. P. Lovecraft: Writers of the Dark
A fine looking book and still affordable.

Zaharoff 07-10-2017 03:04 PM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
I copied Dirk Mosig's essay "Myth-Maker" from Whispers #9.
This was published in 1976.
Saved as pdf, hoisted to cloud.
Copy if interested -

Druidic 07-10-2017 03:15 PM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
Very nice, Zaharoff. Thanks.

Sad Marsh Ghost 07-10-2017 03:29 PM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
I consider myself a fan of Joshi, but there are some areas in which I disagree with him profoundly, particularly his assessment of Robert E. Howard. I unashamedly love Howard's baroque heroic romances, and I think it's a shame they are still not taken seriously.

Hidden X 10-15-2017 05:22 AM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
This missed my attention due to that recent furor about Joshi and Barron (from his October 2 blog post):
Quote:

If I had more time and inclination, I might advocate the boycotting of the books published under his Word Whore (er, sorry, I mean Word Horde) imprint—but since I cannot imagine why any sane and intelligent person would want to buy these books in the first place, I shall dutifully refrain and let Mr. Lockhart’s imprint descend of its own accord into the oblivion it so richly deserves.
This is low even by his recent standards. Interestingly enough, he wasn't all that negative about Michael Griffin's collection that was published under this imprint, but it looks like he has decided to forget about that...

Nirvana In Karma 10-15-2017 09:15 AM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
Weird that Joshi's not going to be covering Mark Samuels in his treatise on 21st century horror...

Hidden X 10-15-2017 10:15 AM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
Samuels isn't nearly as widely read among weird fiction readers nowadays as you might think if this particular community is your only frame of reference in that matter.

Frater_Tsalal 10-15-2017 12:00 PM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
Joshi's criticisms of Griffin's collection were fairly mild (well, by his standards) but I recall some people on social media went into vapors over it. IIRC Griffin himself took it in stride... was surprised that Joshi had even heard of him and seemed appreciative that he had took the time to read (and critique) it.

Hidden X 10-15-2017 12:56 PM

Re: S.T. Joshi says....
 
I actually, I would go as far as saying that his review was positive as far as his treatment of modern weird fiction goes.
That makes his treatment of Griffin, and of so many other authors who publish under that imprint, as not being worthy of attention of "any sane and intelligent person", all the worse. Joshi comes off as someone who doesn't put too much value even into his own earlier professional judgment, as long as it doesn't fit his current needs.

In any case, given the almost-mainstream success that Word Horde has achieved with their releases like "The Fisherman", methinks that Joshi's prophecies about their imminent descent into oblivion don't have much to do with this reality.


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