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In 1977, I was in grade 5. I was taken from the school to a nearby movie theater to watch this film with other kids. I do remember something that intrigued my mind for years to come.

"Obi-Wan then confronts Darth Vader in a lightsaber duel, eventually sacrificing himself so that Luke and the others can escape. His body disappears, having become a spirit in the Force, while Vader's blade slices through nothing but Obi-Wan's empty robe."

Obi-Wan Kenobi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I still remember the scene.

Then, later on, in "The Empire Strikes back",

"[...] only to be lured into a lightsaber duel with Darth Vader. As his mentors warned, Luke proves to be no match for Vader, who cuts off his right hand."


(minute 5:05)

I still remember the scene.

Allow me to ask such "an obsessively investigative nature" the following question, in the first film "Star Wars" Obi-Wan Kenobi disappears when touched by a lightsaber, in the next film "The Empire Strikes Back", Luke has just a hand cut off when touched by the same lightsaber.

Does it have any logic?

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I could never convince my parents of the advantages of living in a cave.



but to be honest, spending many years immersed in drugs and booze is my biggest disappointment.

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That was a disappointment. For a moment, I misread that as I was born in Eastern Siberia. :(

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Between 1968 and 1975 thirty-two of my friends and acquaintances - all between 16 to 24 years of age - died. Some died from drug overdoses, some died fighting in Viet Nam, some committed suicide, some died in car accidents, one had a heart defect and still did speed (I really liked her, too), two died in suspicious one-car traffic accidents and a few died in household accidents. My Uncle also died in an accident. He was 50 and he was the oldest. All of these youngsters my own age were killed or killed themself, mostly violently. It really messed me up for years. For a few years I was disappointed that I was still alive. I felt guilty as well. I no longer feel that way but the sadness lingers.

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It does, especially when the third film is taken into account. We see the Jedi master, Yoda, fade from existence on his natural death. Clearly, it wasn't the weapon that caused the Jedi master Obi-Wan to fade out, but the instantaneously fatal blow. Thus, Luke suffering a blow that is not instantly fatal, nor him being a full Jedi-master, doubly precludes him from fading out as Obi-Wan did one film earlier.

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Simon:

According to this logic,

1) If one is not a Jedi master, although the blow is fatal, one doesn't fade out, right?

2) If one is a Jedi master, and the blow is fatal, but instead of a lightsaber we use a dagger, does one fade out?

I always thought that the lightsaber was some kind of Star Trek phaser, that has different power levels, like 1) to stun, 2 ) to kill.

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Alberto,

I see the whole Jedi disappearing trick as being somewhat similar to a rapture type transference into the afterlife. Some Christian sects believe they will be sent to heaven without having to suffer the physical pain of death if they keep the right faith. In the Star Wars universe, it seems Jedi Masters who do good by that universe's morals get to escape the final horror of a violent death.

Also, I could be wrong, but I don't recall an instance where the lightsaber ever stunned anyone in the films. It seems to function much like a sword made of metal. It's just more portable and perhaps more powerful than steel saber, in my opinion.

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Yes, I see it has logic now. But, did Darth Vader know all these things? By the way Vader moves his foot over Obi-Wan's clothes, it looks like he didn't believe (or know) it. By doing that, he might be saying: "What the f-ck happened to this Obi-Wan?" Didn't Vader know?

I always considered it to be an error in Lucas' world.

Similarly, in this Start Trek episode (The City at the Edge of Forever), minute 7:44 to 7:55, the old man points the phaser at himself, and disappears, with the phaser included, How come? If the phaser is being disintegrated, at the same time the old man is, what is then causing the disintegration? I always thought this was an error on Harlan Ellison's side.


Or in the old TV series "The Invaders", when the dying aliens disintegrated, their clothes also vanished, How come?

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My huge disappointment is that I cannot snap my fingers. People can look so cool doing so. Or commanding. "Yo, (snap), we want our ice water NOW."

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